Updated warning about bagels from the Guide to Chodosh

[Y. Herman]

*CHODOSH BULLETIN-1 JAN 09*

*From the Guide to Chodosh-Y. Herman*

*Chodosh telephone Hot Line 718-305-5133, email **yherman at earthlink.net* 
<mailto:yherman at earthlink.net>**

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*FOLLOWING AS OF 1 JAN 09*

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*POSSIBLE PROBLEM WITH BAGELS-IMPORTANT REVISED NOTICE*

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The following notice concerns bagels that were produced at Main Street 
Bagels in Kew Gardens Hills, but it may apply elsewhere as well. This 
bagel bakery was making regular bagels from Yoshon flour and whole wheat 
bagels from Chodosh flour. Bagels have to be cooked before baking. The 
Rav of one of the shuls in Queens noticed that the bakery used the same 
cooker to cook both the Yoshon bagels and the Chodosh bagels, sometimes 
even both kinds the same time! He alerted the mashgiach from the Vaad 
Harabonim of Queens which certifies the Yoshon status of this this 
store. The hashgocho notified the Guide and we sent out the initial 
warning on Dec 28. Regarding Main Street Bagels, the problem will be 
rectified as of Thursday, Jan 1, ’09. The store will discontinue the use 
of Chodosh flour. From Jan 1 onward, the whole wheat bagels, as well as 
everything else in the store will be made only from Yoshon flour. We 
wish to thank the Vaad Harabonim of Queens, the proprietor of Main 
Street Bagels and the local Rav for the quick and forthright manner that 
this problem was discovered, rectified and publicized. However, there is 
no guarantee that such problems were unique to this bakery alone. 
Mashgichim and consumers who deal with bagel bakeries making both Yoshon 
and Chodosh bagels must make sure that the same boiler is not used for both.

*Kemach* minestrone soup Chodosh code in 3170 (317=day of the year, 0=year+2). Vegetable soup code is 3030. Chodosh code for Kemach egg noodles  is  11/22/09 (1 year after packing)

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FOLLOWING AS OF DEC 28 08

*? Korn Bakery**, * 1378 Queen Anne Road. All products except 6-grain 
bread are Yoshon under the hashgocho of Rabbi Binyomin Taub of the 
Rabbinical Council of Bergen County (RCBC). (Warning: this hashgocho 
does not check the Yoshon status of malt which may be a problem after 
Oct 15.

*? Fiber1 *Crunchy snack bars have a date that is 248 days after 
packing. If they contain oats, they may be Chodosh starting with a code 
of March 31 09. If they contain wheat but not oats, then the Chodosh 
date would be Apr 6 09.

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FOLLOWING AS OF DEC 21

*Weetabix* (this cereal is misspelled in the Guide as “Wheatabix”) the 
wheat in all cereals is winter wheat and is Yoshon. The malt in all 
organic cereals is Yoshon until pesach. For non-organic cereals, the 
malt may be Chodosh with a package code of Jan 15 09 (1 year after packing.)

*Columbia *egg noodles have a Chodosh code of Aug 15 09 (1 year after 
packing). The macaroni, spaghetti and other pasta have a code of Aug 15 
10 (2 years after packing.)

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THE FOLLOWING AS OF DEC 4 08.

*Brill’s Bakery* in Spring Valley, NY (This is misspelled in the Guide 
as “Brulles Bakery”) and *Taam Eden Bakery* in New Square. All baked 
items are Yoshon including whole wheat bread. The only exceptions are 
6-grain and 9-grain breads which may be Chodosh. Under the hashgocho of 
the Beis Din of New Square.

*Liebers.* As the Guide states, all cookies, crackers, snackers that are 
without oats are Yoshon. However, _whole-wheat_ snackers, pretzels and 
whole wheat crackers may be Chodosh starting a purchase date of Dec 1.

/?/* Garden of Eat-In*, 1416 Ave J. (718)252-5289. The following are 
Yoshon: zucchini muffins, breads, rolls (excluding hamburger rolls, and 
hamburger buns), blintzes, and bialys. /_Yoshon pasta available on 
requests_/_. _All products breaded in the store are also Yoshon. _The 
following are NOT Yoshon_: baguettes, English muffins, white bread, 
bagels, barley, most of the pastas, hamburger rolls and buns, and 
anything fried. Low-fat or fat-free muffins are probably NOT Yoshon 
please contact the Kehila Kashrus office at the telephone numbers 
718-951-0481 or 646-739-2465. Under the hashgocho of Kehila Kashrus of 
Brooklyn.

*? Ave P Appetizer*, 466 Ave P, Brooklyn, 646-302-6372. All products may 
not be Yoshon. For questions, contact Kehilah Kashrus at (718) 951-0481. 
. (Warning: this hashgocho does not check the Yoshon status of malt 
which may be a problem after Oct 15. For a discussion of malt, see 
Sections 3.1, 3.2 and 10.1.)

*Ungers* pizza crust (regular, not whole wheat) has the Chodosh code of 
Feb. 26 2009. The Strudel leaves have a Chodosh code of 08303 (08=year, 
303=day of year.) If there is no code printed on the package, then it is 
not recommended as Yoshon due to lack of information.

*Ostrovsky Heimishe Bakery*, 1201 Ave J, Brooklyn. All items Yoshon 
under the hashgocho of Rabbi Yechezkel Shraga Kahana of the CRC.

*Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)* the current policy is that all 
facilities certified by the RCC as being Yoshon also are checked to make 
sure that they use Yoshon malt, unless stated otherwise. Therefore, the 
following establishments in Section 13.3 of the Guide that are under RCC 
hashgocho should be changed from category ? to category ?: Classic 
Bakery, Schwartz Bakeries.

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