Important news from the Guide to Chodosh
Y. Herman
yherman at earthlink.net
Thu Jan 17 20:50:24 EST 2008
*CHODOSH BULLETIN-18 Jan 08*
*From the Guide to Chodosh-Y. Herman*
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*NEW MALT PROBLEMS.*
*SPELT IS ALWAYS YOSHON!*
*MALT PROBLEM*
We were informed by the COR kashrus organization of Toronto that malt in
cereals and other such products that are produced in Canada may be
Chodosh starting the unexpectedly early packing date of Sept 21 07. We
do not know yet how this earlier malt date affects Canadian beer. This
new development was reportedly caused by the fact that many Canadian
farmers who used to grow barley are now finding it more profitable to
grow crops that can be used for conversion to automobile fuel.
Consequently, there is a shortage of old-crop barley. The early malt
starting dates are expected to be repeated in the future.
Regarding products made in the USA, this Canadian development has a
direct bearing on Kellog cereals some of which used Canadian malt.
Therefore, the revised Chodosh code for malt in Kellog cereals in the
USA is Sept 21 08. So far a we know, the Chodosh date for other USA
companies remains Dec 15. However, we were warned by industry sources
that the _next_ season, the fall on 2008, the Chodosh malt starting date
in the USA may be significantly earlier than usual due to the unusually
high demand this year for US grown barley to be used as animal feed
overseas.
*SPELT*
The Guide had stated that spelt products in the USA may be Chodosh
beyond a cutoff date due to the fact that they may contain Canadian
spelt that was assumed to be mostly a spring crop. It turns out that
that assumption was due to incorrect information given to us. With the
corrected information as outlined below, it appears that there should be
no Chodosh problem at all with spelt products produced in the USA.
The correct facts are as follows:
1. The spelt grown in the USA is always a winter crop and is Yoshon.
2. About 80% of the spelt grown in Canada is a winter crop, only
about 20% is a spring crop that may be Chodosh. Most of the spelt
in Canada is grown in Ontario, which is on the eastern part of
Canada. This spelt is almost 100% winter crop. The climate in
Ontario can support either winter or spring crops. However the
winter crops usually yield a much bigger harvest. So Ontario will
only produce a spring spelt under the rare occurance of a failure
of the winter crop. Factories that use spelt that are in the
eastern half of the USA would most likely use either USA grown
spelt or the spelt that comes from the nearby Canadian region of
Ontario. In either case, this would be a winter crop. The 20%
spring spelt is grown in Western Canada.
Therefore, our conclusion that the spelt used in products made in the
USA can be assumed to be free from Chodosh problems is based on the
following. As always, for halacha, check with your own Rav or Posek.
1. It is quite likely that spelt products made in the USA should use
locally grown spelt that is Yoshon.
2. Even if they use Canadian spelt, 80% of that is a winter crop and
is Yoshon.
3. In the eastern part of the USA, it is probable that much more then
80% of the imported Candian spelt should be Yoshon. This is
because Ontario which is in the east part of Canada basically
produces only winter spelt. The spring spelt is produced in
Western Canada almost excusively.
4. Even if the Canadian spelt should be a spring crop, it may be last
years and would be Yoshon.
We would like to thank Rabbi Norman of the COR in Toronto and Rabbi
Jaffee of the kashrus organization in Montreal who pointed out that our
assumptions about Canadian spelt being mostly Chodosh may not be
correct. We were able to confirm their information independently from
industry and university sources.
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*OTHER CORRECTIONS TO THE SECOND ISSUE OF THE GUIDE TO CHODOSH AS OF 18
Jan 08*
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*CORRECTION: *The codes in the Guide that are based on the day of the
year may be off by one day. In reconing the code, we forgot to account
for the fact that February in the year 08 is 29 days long.
*CORRECTION: General Mills Corn Chex* cereal, for the 16 ounce size the
code is 341 days after packing. Therefore, the Chodosh code for the malt
in this cereal is Nov 21 08. For the 14 ounce size the code is 372 days,
giving the malt date of Dec 22 08. The code for Rice Chex should also be
changed to 372 days.
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*? Kedem* soups with noodles and pasta, Chodosh date Aug 16, code H16G
(H=Aug in alph order, 16=day, G=2007)
*? Kemach* updates: Grocery sizes of elbow macaroni and spaghetti have
the revised Chodosh code of Dec 1 2008. Bulk, food service 10 lbs egg
bows have the Chodosh code of 3357 (335=day of year, 7=year.) All
flavors of flat breads have the revised Chodosh code of January 1 2009.
Kemach vegetable soup Chodosh code is1609 (160=day of the year,
9=year+2). Toasted oats, Honey Nut Toasted Oats, Fruit Whirls, Honey
Crunch (like Honeycombs), Corn Crisps (like Kix), Bunch O Krunch, all
have a Chodosh date of Sept 1 08. However those with codes of Sept 19
and Sept 21 still use oats that are 75% Yoshon and 25% Chodosh (for
those who wish to be lenient for foods that are mostly Yoshon.) All
cereals have a malt date of Feb 29 09 (1 year after packing.) Malt in
crackers may be Chodosh starting with a package code of 7349 (7=year,
349=day of the year.) The malt in the flour may be Chodosh, even with a
Yoshon label, after the packing date of Mar 1 08, code Sept 1 09 (18
months after packing.)
*? Wheatena* cereal uses winter wheat only.
*X Strauss Bakery*. 5115 13^th Ave Brooklyn The Yoshon status of this
bakery has not yet been confirmed. So far it has been confirmed that
items listed in the Guide under the section for Frozen Foods, for
Strauss Bakery frozen doughs as being Yoshon under the hashgocho of the
O-U are correct.
*? Kellogs* cereals that contain malt but no wheat barley or oats, the
malt may be Chodosh starting Sept 21 (code Sept 21 08).
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*THE FOLLOWING AS OF 31 DEC 07*
*Greenwald Caterers*, Lakewood, NJ. Yoshon available on request only.
Under the hashgocho of Rabbi Gornish.
*Adirim* pasta. The farfel is Yoshon all season. All other Adirim noodle
and pasta products have a Chodosh code of 26 11 09 (26=day of the month,
11=Nov, 09=year+2). Under the hashgocho of Rabbi Shlomo Gissinger.
*Milk & Honey *has two listings on 10^th Ave, Brooklyn. The second, Milk
& Honey Restaurant 5013 10^th Ave should be deleted.
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*THE FOLLOWING AS OF 17 DEC 07*
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*WARNING:* *Beigels* whole wheat breads and bread doughs are all
Chodosh. We have received reports of some frozen whole wheat doughs
having a Yoshon label on them. That is an error, these are all Chodosh
according to the company.
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*Unger* pizza crust ,both 12 inch and 6 inch size, the revised Chodosh
code is Apr 9 08. Under the hashgocho of the Bais Din of New Square.
*Pizza Mizza* in Brooklyn is no longer under the hashgocho of the
Kehilah Kashrus. Therefore, it should be deleted from the Guide.
*Dougies on the Run* in Baltimore is under the hashgocho for kashrus of
the Star-K. It is not certified as Yoshon.
*Bagel Nosh, *380 Clifton Ave, Lakewood is listed on page 5 of the
Guide. That was included by mistake and should be deleted. The Guide
does not list any information about Bagel Nosh.
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*FOLLOWING AS OF 6 DEC 07*
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The second issue of the Guide to Chodosh has been made available by
email and BBS during the week of Nov 12. It was mailed out to all paid
subscribers in the beginning of the week of Nov 25. The following are
corrections to the new Guide
*WARNING*: According to the Star-K of Baltimore, * Shindler* fish sticks
and fish nuggets in _blue* *_packages are Chodosh until further notice.
Shindler products in packages of other colors are still Yoshon.
*REVISED URGENT WARNING: GEFEN BARLEY*
The Gefen Company asked that an urgent bulletin be issued. Two batches
of Gefen barley, that went to the stores during the week of Nov 11, are
NOT YOSHON. These have the codes of 10-22-09 and 10-29-09. Gefen had a
contract with a company to store Yoshon barley to last the entire
season. However, that company went bankrupt and the stock of Yoshon
barley was liquidated. Gefen has not been able to secure replacement
stocks of Yoshon barley. _Therefore, until further notice, all Gefen
barley with date code of 10-22-09 or later is Chodosh._
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*Brewers yeast*. It is questionable whether this poses a Chodosh
problem or not. Brewers yeast is listed as an ingredient in some foods
such as some potato chips.
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*Streits* noodles are usually Yoshon under hashgocho. However, one batch
of Streits noodles has been produced that is Chodosh. The bags of
Chodosh noodles have a sticker warning that it is not Yoshon. All bags
without such a sticker are Yoshon.
*Kemach* updates: Grocery sizes of elbow macaroni and spaghetti have the
revised Chodosh code of Dec 1 2008. Bulk, food service 10 lbs egg bows
have the Chodosh code of 3357 (335=day of year, 7=year.) All flavors of
flat breads have the revised Chodosh code of January 1 2009.
*Masbia* barley is not being produced any more. Any of this barley on
the market is certain to be Yoshon.
*Kineret *chalehs produced in the USA are probably not Yoshon as of the
purchase date of Nov 26, according to the mashgiach.
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*KCL hashgochos in Lakewood*. On page 55 of the new Guide there is a
statement that KCL does not give any hashgochos yet on Yoshon. That was
, by mistake, copied from the previous issue of the Guide. In fact, the
KCL does give several hashgochos for Yoshon, as detailed on page 56 of
the new Guide.
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