Bulletin from the Guide to Chodosh

Y. Herman yherman at earthlink.net
Thu Feb 1 12:26:58 EST 2007




CHODOSH BULLETIN AS OF 1 Feb 07



Yoseph Herman

PLEASE POST THIS IN SHULS, YESHIVAS OR OTHER PLACES WHERE PEOPLE INTERESTED 
IN YOSHON WOULD SEE IT.

The third and last issue of the Guide to Chodosh is nearing completion. It 
should go to the printer approximately Feb 5.

  The following are corrections and additions to the second issue:



Nature Valley Granola update: WARNING: Often the outside box that holds a 
number of granola bars has a different date on it than the individual bars 
inside. Each individual bar must be checked since the date on the bars, not 
the date on the outside package, is relevant. The different types of 
granola bars have different Chodosh codes. To find the Chodosh code add the 
following number of days to July 26 06: Oats&Honey=372 days; Sweet&Salty 
Nut-Cashew=217, Healthy Heart Honey Nut=217; Tail Mix Fruit&Nut=248, Silver 
Salty Nut=248; Fruit Crisp=279. For other types of bars not listed here, 
call General Mills at 800-328-6787 and ask for the shelf lifeof your 
granola bar.

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AS OF JAN 28 07



GENERAL MILLS CEREALS the codes have changed further. These changes were 
initially reported in the update bulletin issued on Dec 28 06. The 
following makes small changes to that report. Namely 10 months becomes 310 
days (10 x 31 days), 11 months becomes 341 days (11 x 31) and 12 months 
becomes 372 days (12 x 31). In addition, Trix cereals was listed as 11 
months. That is changed to 372 days and Wheaties and Raisin Bran were added 
(both also 372 days)

Below are the updated, modified Chodosh dates for different cereals. This a 
table to replace the one that was printed in the new Guide and in the 
earlier Bulletin.



Cereal name                 Days                Code-wheat, 
barley      Code-oats        Code-malt

Oat Mill Raisin Crisp, Corn Chex, Oatmeal

Crisp with raisins          310 days          Jun 15 
2007                 May 31 07       Oct 21 07



Reeses Puffs, Cookie Crisp, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, Oatmeal Crisp with 
Almonds, Golden Grahams, Wheat Chex, Rice Chex, Honey Nut Chex

                                     341 days          Jul 16 
2007                  Jul 1 07            Nov 21 07



Cheerios, Apple Cinnamon Cheerios, Frosted Cheerios, Clusters, Kix, Berry 
Burst Cheerios, Fruity Cheerios, Raisin Nut Bran, Total, Honey Nut 
Cheerios, MultiGrain Cheerios,  Multi Bran Chex, Fiber 1, Trix

                                     372 days          Aug 16 
2007                Aug 1 07          Dec 22 07

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NOTE ABOUT MALT: The Guide lists many products with a warning that the 
mashgiach for Yoshon does not take responsibility for the Yoshon status of 
malt. Some of these products have a Yoshon label and possibly other 
hashgochos printed on the package. These other hashgochos may take 
responsibility for the Yoshon status of malt. Check the packages. The lists 
of hashgochos that do or do not take responsibility for malt is listed in 
Section 3.1 of the Guide.



Barilla pasta Chodosh codes: Multi Grain Pasta and Pasta Plus Aug 16 07 (1 
year after packing. All other pasta Chodosh code is April 16 09 (32 months 
after packing.)



Browns Best Barley Chodosh date Sept 18 06 packing date (on package.) Under 
the hashgocho of Rabbi Binyomin Taub.



Dependable Egg Noodles in bulk 10 pound packages with codes of 3616 or 3626 
are Yoshon under the hashgocho of Rabbi Binyomin Taub.



The new Streits candy and nut line packed in plastic tubs is produced in a 
facility under the supervision of the cRc (Chicago Rabbinical 
Council).  Some of these containers inadvertently showed the name of Rabbi 
Soloveichik which was in error.  The Yoshon status of this product was not 
checked and Rabbi Soloveichiks name should not have appeared on the 
product.  All future product runs will only contain the cRc kasruth symbol.



Ronzoni pasta codes updates: To determine the Chodosh package code, add the 
following number of years to the packing date of Aug 16 06.  All oven-ready 
pastas 1 year, egg noodles and Healthy Harvest from Canada and whole wheat 
pasta (sold in the US) 2 years, all other pasta such as macaroni and 
spaghetti 3 years.



Eden Palace catering in Brooklyn Yoshon under the hashgocho of Rabbi Y. 
Gornish.



Concord Plaza catering in Brooklyn Yoshon under the hashgocho of Rabbi Y. 
Gornish.



Different Twist Cafee, 76-02 Main St. Kew Gardens Hills, NY 718-575-5015, 
All items Yoshon under the hashgocho of the Vaad Hakashrus of Queens.



Zomicks and Steinberg Bakeries in the Five Towns, LI, NY update: All 
products under Zomick and Steinberg label except 6 grain bread are Yoshon 
under the hashgocho of the O-K Labs. The same goes for the wholesale items 
under the Gotta-Getta-Bagel and Bessys Famous items sold in groceries. 
These last two are only guaranteed Yoshon with a Yoshon label. Warning: 
Retail stores with the Gotta-Getta-Bagel name ARE NOT under this hashgocho 
for Yoshon.



Gefen matzos update. The 16 ounce size regular matzos are made in Israel 
and are Yoshon, category 0. The 10 ounce regular matzos and the whole wheat 
matzos are Yoshon category Ó.



Hodgson Mills whole wheat flour. The listing in the Guide on page 30 has an 
error. It should read: Chodosh code is Feb 9 08 (18 months after packing.)







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FOLLOWING AS OF JAN 5 07



Landau whole wheat pasta, whole wheat pretzels, spelt pretzels and other 
Landau products by Landtev Corp can not be listed as Yoshon because they 
have no mashgiach for Yoshon and they have not provided any dating codes.



Ungers update. As of approximately Dec 1 06, Rabbi Mordechai Unger is no 
longer the mashgiach for Unger products. A few Unger products are under the 
hashgocho of the Bais Din of New Square. All of these have must have both 
the symbol of the Bais Din and a Yoshon label on  the package. The Guide 
stated that Ungers barley purchased after Dec 1 may be Chodosh. Claims have 
been  made that Ungers barley being currently (in January 07)  delivered to 
the local stores are Yoshon. I have contacted the company and still have 
not received confirmation of the Yoshon status of Ungers barley. Until such 
confirmation is provided, caution is urged on the barley.  Ungers pie and 
tart shells, kishke and French fries with flour can only be recommended as 
Yoshon if there is a dating code on the package. If there is such a code, 
then the Chodosh code is 06221 (06=year, 221=day of the year. Without such 
a code these can no longer be recommended without a Yoshon label..



Chantilly Bakery or the World of Chantilly in Brooklyn is Yoshon under the 
hashgocho of the KAJ (note: this hashgocho does not check the Yoshon status 
of malt.)



Kashi cereals code update. For all hot and cold Kashi cereals, the code is 
12 months after packing. For cereals with oats this would have a Chodosh 
code of July 26 07. For wheat without oats, the code is Aug 9 07. The 
exception is Pilaf for which the code is 24 months.



Dependable High Gluten flour sold in groceries in 5 and 6 pound bags. 
Almost all these  bags contain Yoshon and have a Yoshon label. A few 
groceries have requested Chodosh flour in such bags. The Chodosh flour is, 
of course, without a Yoshon label. Check for the label before purchase.



General Mills Cocoa Puffs cereal code is 1 year after packing. If it 
contains oats then the Chodosh date is Jul 26 07. For wheat and no oats, 
the Chodosh code is Aug 9 07.



Sammys New York Bagels, Rt 59, Monsey is now under the hashgocho of the 
Star-K of Baltimore. Only the bagels are certified as Yoshon.



Shellys Pizza, Maple Ave, Spring Valley, NY all baked items (only baked 
items) are Yoshon under the hashgocho of Rabbi Shlomo Ullman.



Ave R Café, Rt 59, Monsey, all items are Yoshon under the hashgocho of 
Rabbi Shlomo Ullman. However, the muffins and whole grain bread are NOT 
Yoshon, as of Jan 1 07. There is a sign in the store stating these exceptions.



Rice Select pasta codes: Royal Blend Whole grain pasta and Couscous 18 
months, Other Royal Blend pastas and Orzo the code is 2 years. The Chodosh 
code for pastas for 18 months is Feb 16 08, for 2 year items it is Aug 16 08.



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CHODOSH NEWS AS OF DEC 28 06



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Mishpacha chocolate and yellow cake mixes are Yoshon under the hashgocho of 
Rabbi Teitelbaum.



Smackin Good potato knishes have been Chodosh. However, one batch of Yoshon 
knishes was now produced. These knishes have codes of W06BE or W06BD. These 
will be available after Jan  3 in the stores. Only these codes are Yoshon, 
others are Chodosh. Under the hashgocho of Rabbi Weissmandl.



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LIEBERS ALERT:  The mashgiach has asked us to alert the public that the 
following cookies which have Yoshon ingredients were made in an oven in 
which Chodosh oatmeal cookies were baked earlier on the same day (but not 
at the same time). Consult your Rov or posek about whether such a ben 
yomaoven is a problem or not. For those who want to be machmir, these 
cookies should not be purchased between the dates of Dec 24 and Feb 24 07. 
These Liebers cookies are chocolate chip, animal crackers, butterthins, 
fudge&chip cookies, Royal chocolate chip, chocolate chip thins, chocolate 
chiplets, ABC chocolate chip cookies.

MALT ALERT FOR CANADA: The COR of Toronto informed us that malt used in 
foods produced in Canada has become Chodosh earlier than usual, in some 
cases as early as mid October. For more information about the Canadian malt 
situation, contact the COR in Toronto, at 416-635-9550. In the USA, the 
normal malt schedule is being followed, with malt becoming Chodosh for USA 
packing dates starting Dec 15 or later. (In Canada, the 2005 barley crop 
was of very poor quality. That required the malt manufacturers to switch to 
the new 2006 barley crop earlier than usual.)

MALT ALERT FOR USA: In view of the earlier start of Chodosh malt in Canada 
(see previous paragraph) consumers are advised caution in purchasing food 
items in the USA if they are a product of Canada and contain malt. As a 
preliminary advice, avoid purchasing such items if the dating code 
indicates packing on or after Oct 15. If no dating code is known, then they 
should not be purchased after Jan 15.

ALERT FOR MASHGICHIM: It is important to check the Yoshon status not only 
of major ingredients such as flour, but also of flavorings. For example, 
Rabbi Binyomin Taub reported finding wheat flour in a red pepper spice 
mixture used to flavor some wraps. If you find such unexpected discoveries, 
please inform the Guide to Chodosh.

Canadian update: Consumers in Canada are notified that the COR in Toronto 
and the Jewish Community Council of Montreal (MK) have both issued updated 
Chodosh Bulletins during the week of Dec 17 06. Contact these organizations 
directly for copies of these bulletins.

Kemach pasta Chodosh code is: For spaghetti and elbows Oct 15 2007 (1 year 
after packing). For lasagna the code is 10/15/08 (2 years after packing). 
This pertains only to the 1 pound grocery size packages, not the large bulk 
packages.

Kemach flours. The malt in the all purpose flour, the bread flour and the 
whole wheat flour may be Chodosh sometime after the packing date of Jan. 31 
07, code July 31 08 (18 months after packing.) (Note that many poskim allow 
Chodosh malt in baking flour. Consult your own posek.)

Masbia barley has a Chodosh code of 09 08 (Sept 2006). Under the hashgocho 
of Rabbis Klein and Taub.

Browns Best barley Chodosh date is listed on the package in one of two 
ways, Packed Sept 2 2006or equivalently Best if used by Sept 2 2008. Before 
that code, the barley is Yoshon under the hashgocho of Rabbis Klein and Taub.

Mishpacha barley can not be guaranteed to be Yoshon at this time, according 
to the mashgiach.

Podrigals Bakery claims that all their baked products are Yoshon under the 
hashgocho of the O-K Labs. However, O-K Labs informed us that they certify 
as Yoshon only items for which there is both an O-K label and a Yoshon 
label on the package. (Prodigal also has the hashgocho of the Hisachdus. 
However, Hisachdus does not take responsibility for Yoshon.)

Zomicks Bakery in Cederhurst is Yoshon under the hashgocho of the OK Labs. 
This was correctly stated in the Guide on page 48. However, this 
information was not correctly updated on page 55.

Steinbergs Bakery, Oceanside, NY is all Yoshon except for choice grain 
bread, under the hashgocho of the OK Labs. This was correctly stated in the 
Guide on page 49. However, this information was not correctly updated on 
page 55.

Shalom Pizza in Brooklyn has closed and it reopened as Pizza King which is 
Yoshon under the hashgocho of Rav Babad.

Jerusalem II pizza on Avenue M is Yoshon under Rabbi Gornish. However, the 
spicy fries and other fried foods are not Yoshon. There are signs in the 
store stating this fact.

In Section 3.5 of the Guide there is a list of hashgochos that do not allow 
spicy fries that may be Chodosh in their establishments. That should be 
amended to state that they only allow such spicy fries if there is a clear 
sign stating that fried items may be Chodosh.

On page 23, in the discussion of malt in pretzels, there is an error. It 
should state that pretzels for which the dating code is not known, may be 
purchased up to March 15.
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