Bulletin from the Guide to Chodosh

[Y. Herman]

BULLETIN FROM THE GUIDE TO CHODOSH



6 Dec 04



The second issue of the Guide to Chodosh has been sent to the printer. It 
is already available from local dealers in Monsey, Brooklyn and Lakewood. 
The other  local dealers and individual subscribers should be getting the 
new Guiders after I get the main shipment back from the printer around Dec 8.



The electronic version of the new Guide in PDF format is available now for 
request by E mail or dialup computer. There are now 3 ways you can get 
electronic versions of the Guide to Chodosh and the Mashgichims Guide.

1)      Send a blank E mail message to: 
<mailto:chodosh at moruda.com>chodosh at moruda.com for the Guide, and 
<mailto:mashgiach at moruda.com>mashgiach at moruda.com for the Mashgiachs Guide

2)      Send a blank E mail message to: 
<mailto:chodosh at sefer.org>chodosh at sefer.org for the Guide, and 
mashgiach at sefer.org for the Mashgiachs Guide

3)      Avoid E mail, and dial directly into our BBS, using the 
instructions at the end of this Bulletin.



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THE FOLLOWING IS THE LIST OF CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS FROM THE SECOND 
GUIDE. (Some of these items were sent out in earlier E mail bulletins, 
others are new.)




ANNUAL MALT REMINDER



Three dates are significant regarding malt.

1.   Dec. 15 is the earliest date that malt manufacturers start shipping 
out Chodosh malt to manufacturers to include in their food products.

2.   Jan. 15 is the probable packing date when Chodosh malt first starts 
being packed into packaged products.

3.   March 15 is the estimated purchase date when more than half of the 
malt containing products on the store shelves may contain Chodosh malt. 
Therefore, after March 15 it is recommended that malt problem products 
should not be purchased unless a known dating code indicates that it was 
packed before Jan. 15.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Most years some people assume that malt is not a 
significant problem because most malt is probably Yoshon up to Mar. 15. (We 
advise in any case that the Mar. 15 rule should not be used when dating 
codes are known.) This year, since pesach starts Apr 6, malt could be more 
of a problem than usual and items that could have Chodosh malt should be 
stored up in time.

DETAILS: We never found any malt manufacturer that begins to ship Chodosh 
malt from the new barley crop earlier than Dec. 15. The malt is then 
shipped, Dec. 15 or later, to other factories that begin to use it in the 
end products. Therefore, by the terminology established in the Guide, all 
malt in foods is definitelyYoshon before Dec 15. Up to Jan. 15 such malt is 
probablyYoshon. (It should be noted that in 2003 we did find a single 
exception to our Dec 15 rule. Namely, during the 2003-4 season, the malt 
supplied to the various Kellogs factories in the USA and Canada switched to 
malt made from Chodosh barley in early November. That seems to have been an 
exceptional situation. This year they are back to the normal situation, 
with a malt Chodosh date for Kellogs of Jan. 15.)

The following applications of malt pose a problem of Chodosh. Malt is used 
for several purposes. Foods using malt for flavoring or coloring should not 
be used if packed after Jan 15 since that malt may be Chodosh. That 
includes cereals flavored with malt such as Corn Flakes and Rice Crispies, 
as well as most pretzels where it is used for coloring and flavoring. Beer 
is also included in the category of items which are Chodosh because of 
malt. (In the case of beer, we recommend that the Dec 15 date should be 
used, not the probable date of Jan 15.)  In addition there are specialty 
vinegars such as malt vinegar, terragon vinegar and salad vinegar which are 
made with high concentrations of malt. However, permitted are most 
vinegar-based items such as ordinary household vinegar, and condiments such 
as ketchup, mayonnaise, mustard, pickles, etc.

In the past, we had urged our readers to avoid many items that contain 
barley malt. We have received psak halochos several years ago that many of 
these are not a problem so far as the malt content is concerned. This 
includes baking flour that lists barley malt in the ingredients. (We have 
included dating codes for some baking flour for those who do not want to 
rely on this psak that this malt may be used. Call the Hot Line for details 
of this psak.)


If you know the dating code for an item that has a malt problem, then you 
should avoid this item if it was packed on or after Jan. 15. If the dating 
code is not known, then we recommend that the item may be purchased up to 
Mar. 15.




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NEW INDEX ADDED

Previous issues of the Guide have had 2 indexes, (1) an alphabetic index of 
products and establishments and (2) a category index, sorted by the 
categories Ð, Ñ, Ò, Ó. Now we have added a third index for your 
convenience. This is a subject index which should allow you to quickly find 
in the Guide the locations of different categories of items. See the back 
of this Guide. We also made an other change as the result of a suggestion 
called in to the Hot Line. We printed on the top of each index page the 
type of index contained on that page. We hope you find these changes useful.



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LIST OF CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS TO THE GUIDE



(Each of these changes have been entered into the Guide at the appropriate 
location.)



WARNING: The former G&I Bakery in Queens, NY is out of business. The new 
"Moshe's G'n I" is operating as a retail business only. All G&I  or Moshe's 
G 'n I products in their own store or sold in other groceries should be 
assumed to be Chodosh except cakes. The medium challehs, and 2 pound rye 
breads WITH YOSHON STICKER ONLY" are Yoshon. Some Yoshon chaleh rolls are 
also available.



WARNING: Ostrowskys Heimishe Bakery, 1201 Ave J in Brooklyn was subject to 
a mistake and as a result was selling six-grain bread as Yoshon. In fact 
this bread is Chodosh. This error has since been corrected.



Arrowhead Mills spelt is Yoshon.

Barbara cereals update: For the following cereals: Shredded wheat, Cinnamon 
Puffins, Peanut Butter Puffins, Vanilla Almond Shredded Oats,  if they 
contain wheat the Chodosh code is Apr 20 05. If they contain no wheat but 
do contain oats then the code is May28 05. For the following cereals: 
Shredded Spoonfuls, Puffins, Shredded Oats, Organic Crispy Wheats, 2 Good 
Rice and Oats cereal, Honey Crunchn Oats, Organic Wild Puffs, Grain Shop if 
they contain wheat the Chodosh code is May 20 05. If they contain no wheat 
but do contain oats then the code is Jun 28 05. For the following 
cereals:  Honey Nut Toasted Oats, Apple Cinnamon Toasted Oats, Organic 
Purity Punch, Breakfast Os, Brown Rice Crisps if they contain wheat the 
Chodosh code is Aug 20 05. If they contain no wheat but do contain oats 
then the code is Sept 28 05.

Barilla pasta packages have a best by use date. However, the code in the 
Guide is still being used on the package and should be used for Chodosh 
purposes.

Beechnut baby cereals in boxes, the code has changed. The code on the 
package is 2 years after packing. For ingredients containing wheat, the 
probable Chodosh code is Aug 20 06. For cereals containing oats but no 
wheat, the code is Sept 28 06. For those that contain barley but no wheat 
or oats, the code is Oct 1 06.

CANADA: This issue of the Guide, in Section 4.13 presents the recent 
Chodosh bulletins issued by the kashrus organizations of Toronto and Monteal.

Duncan Hines cake mixes have a code that is 2 years after packing. 
Therefore, the Chodosh code is Aug 20 06. The code for brownies, cookies 
and muffins is not yet known.

Eden pasta available in bulk packages as Yoshon, with Yoshon makings 
only,  from Bertran Co., 3401 Tremley Rd., Linden NJ, 908-862-8200.

Gefen Update: All pasta except tricolor and penne will be Yoshon regardless 
of codes at least up to a purchase date of  Jan 31 05. Gefen cup soups will 
be Yoshon at least up to the purchase date of Feb 15 05.

General Mills oats cereals have the Chodosh packing date of Nov 15. For 
General Mills Berry Burst Cheerios, use the 248 day values in the Genral 
Mills cereal code ttable of Section 3,11.

Glicks Chow Mein Noodles may not be Yoshon as of a purchase date of Nov 9.

Gold Medal all purpose flour from factory KC is from winter wheat. The 
Better For Bread flour from factory KC is Chodosh starting with a packing 
date of Aug 1, code Feb 1, 06KC.

Goldbergs New York Kosher Bagels, 708 Reisterstown Road, Baltimore, 
(410)415-7001. Bagels only are Yoshon under the hashgocho of the Vaad 
Hakashrus of Baltimore.

Healthy Delight Sufflet may be Chodosh at this time according to the Star K.

Jerusalem II Pizza, 1424 Ave M, Brooklyn, under the hashgocho of Rav 
Gornish. The spicy fries may be Chodosh. Please see applicable signs posted 
in the store.

Kellogs cereals, the malt date for all cereals is Jan 15. Kellogs cereals 
sold in Israel and Europe are all Yoshon under the Hashgocho of the 
Manchester (England) Beth Din.

Kemach updates: One pound packages of spaghetti, macaroni and lasagna have 
a Chodosh code of 11/01/05. Ten pound packages of pasta with code ending in 
Z have the Chodosh code of 3064 31Z (306=day of year, 4=year, 31=not 
important, Z=company). Soup mixes: vegetable, minestrone mix, noodle soup 
mix, onion soup mix are all Yoshon as of Nov 2. At the time of this 
printing, code is only known for the vegetable soup mix. It is 3006 
(300=day of year, 6=year+2). Kemach Bunch of Krunch is a new cereal. Its 
Chodosh code is Oct 15 05 (1 year after packing). Flat bread all Yoshon at 
least to a purchase date of Oct 31.

Korns retail bakery at 4322 15th Ave Brooklyn is Yoshon, without hashgocho 
for Yoshon.

Landau (Landlev Corp) whole wheat pasta is Yoshon to pesach. Also Yoshon 
are whole wheat pretzels and spelt pretzels. Oats pretzels or oat bran 
pretzels are Chodosh.

Mendelsohn new line of Mealtime Favoratesis Yoshon as stated on the label.

Mishpacha barley is probably Chodosh at this time.

Morning Flakes oats cereal sold in Israel and Europe is Yoshon under the 
hashgocho of the Manchester (England) Beth Din.

Nature Valley Granola sold in Israel. A special batch of this product was 
made especially for sale in Israel. This batch has the O-U hashgocho and a 
Yoshon label in Hebrew. With such a Yoshon label, this is Yoshon under the 
O-U hashgocho.

Old City Café frozen pizza products are Yoshon under the hashgocho of the O-U.

Oronoque Pie Crust code has changed. The probable Chodosh date of Aug 20 
has the code of M9 4 233 (M9=not important, 4=year, 233=day of the year.)

Pillsbury flour code has changed. The code on the all purpose grocery flour 
is 18 months after packing. The Chodosh packing date for mill A is Sept 1, 
giving the code of  March 1 06A. For the grocery bread flour from this mill 
the code is 12 months after packing, giving Sept 1 05A. These flours from 
mill E are both Yoshon. We have been unable to get information about 
Pillsbury whole wheat flour.

Post Honey Comb Shredded Wheat cereal is made by Ralston. It uses winter wheat.

Postum beverage: The date on the package is 3 years after packing. The 
probable Chodosh code is Aug 20 07.

Quaker oats hot cereals made in Canada have the Chodosh code of Mar 17 06.

Reisman-Kiryat Yoel Bakery. Rye breads sold in Monroe are NOT Yoshon. Rye 
breads sold elsewhere, as well as all other baked products even in Monroe, 
are Yoshon.

San-J tamari and other soy type sauces are all aged and are probably Yoshon.

Scottos Fat Free Biscotti and other cookies are Yoshon under the hashgocho 
of the Kof K.

Shoprite (Wakefern) cereal update: Hot oats cereals in small packets and 
canisters have a code that is 18 months after packing for codes ending in 
the letter N. Probable Chodosh code is Mar 28 06. For the hot oats without 
N at the end of the code, the date is 2 years after packing, Sept 28 06.

The Baker baked products are still not recommended as Yoshon.

Tradition Soups code has changed. The new code for the probable Chodosh 
date of Aug 20 is 2334 (233=day of the year, 4=year.) However, the company 
plans soon to revert to the code that is in the Guide, month and year 2 
years after packing.

Wan Ja Shan aged soy sauce is Yoshon. The first issue of the Guide 
misspelled this item.

We have received confirmation from the O-U that the ingredients listed as 
food starchand modified food starchare not Chodosh. These usually are from 
corn.



CHICAGO CORRECTIONS: The following are corrected listings:
    * Ð Chaims Kosher Bakery, 4956 Dempster, Skokie.  Under the hashgocho 
of the CRC.
    * Ñ Bagel Country, 93-6 Skokie Blvd, Skokie, IL 60076 (847) 675-1005., 
baked goods only, under the hashgocho of the CRC.



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