Update from the Guide to Chodosh

[Y. Herman]

CHODOSH BULLETIN

THE FOLLOWING AS OF OCT 10 02

Heckers and Ceresota flour codes have changed. It is now a straight "best 
if used by" date. The date on the package is 12 months after packing for 
the whole wheat flour and 18 months for the regular unbleached white flour.

Quaker and Mothers cereal clarification: Quaker oat bran COLD cereal (eaten 
without cooking) has a date that is 270 days after packing. The HOT oat 
bran cereals have a date that is 540 days after packing. The Quaker small 
single servings of hot oat cereals also have a date that is 540 days after 
packing. See the table on page 20 of the Guide for more details. For Quaker 
oats cereals made in Canda, the embossed code must be 0814P2 or lower.

Borekas Plus, 1528 Coney Island Ave, Brooklyn is no longer under the 
hashgocho of Kehilah Kashrus. It is now in the category of Yoshon without 
hashgocho for Yoshon.

Kosher Pizza Palace, 2816 Ave M, Brooklyn. The pita is also Yoshon.

Gelbstein Bakery, Clifton Ave, Lakewood, 732-363-3636,  produces Yoshon 
without hashgocho for Yoshon.

Geffen Pancake and Waffle Mix Yoshon (without hashgocho) the whole season.

Landau Whole Wheat pasta is Yoshon (without hashgocho) the whole season.

Korn Retail Bakeries in Brooklyn. The following are owned by Korn (15th Ave 
Food Corp) Wholesale bakeries and are Yoshon under hashgocho for Yoshon of 
the O-K Laboratories: Korn Bakery, 1278 49th St and Moshe's Supermarket, 
325 Ave. M. Whatever is printed in the Guide (page 29) for Korn Wholesale 
Bakery also applies to these two. The following Korn Retail Bakeries are 
fully Yoshon, bu NOT under hashgocho for Yoshon: 5004 16th Ave, (718) 
851-0258, 4106 18th Ave, 851-8015, 5918 18th Ave 621-0595, 914 Kings 
Highway 627-2903,  4309 13th Ave 435-2852, plus the bakery section in KDS 
Supermarket 1507 Coney Island Ave 692-0879.

Detroit Michigan. Rabbi Gruskin was listed in the Guide as the local 
contact. He no longer lives in the Detroit area. A new contact will be 
announced soon.

Kedem Soup mixes are NOT recommended as Yoshon at this time.

Smackin Good Frozen Waffles Chodosh as of purchase date of Oct 15, no code 
availalble. Smackin Good Frozen Potato Knishes are Yoshon at least up to 
the purchase date of Nev 15.

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THE FOLLOWING AS OF 1 Oct 02

The Guide to Chodosh was published and mailed out right after Yom Kippur. 
The following are changes, additions and corrections to the Guide.

New pasta dates and codes: For the following brands Ronzoni, Creamette, 
Giorgio, American Beauty, Skinner and Prince, the new Chodosh packing date 
is Oct 28, 02. The revised code is 2301 (2=year, 301=day of the year).

General Mills cereals. The table on page 19 of the Guide has an error. The 
Chodosh cutoff package code for 248 days for wheat germ should be Apr 25 
'03. The package code for 372 days and malt should be Jan 22 '04. Further 
clarification: the wheat, wheat bran and wheat starch in General Mills 
cereals is from winter wheat. However if wheat germ is listed in the 
ingredients (instead of just "wheat") then it may be from spring wheat. 
That is the reason that the table on page 19 only lists wheat germ as a 
wheat problem for General Mills cereals.

Quaker cereals. The table on page 20 of the Guide has an error. For 360 
days and malt, the package date should be Jan 10, '04.

Smackin Good  pancakes under the hashgocho of Rav Weissmandl may be Chodosh 
after the purchase date of Oct 2 '02.

Cereals in Israel. The Guide stated that all General Mills/Nestle cereals 
sold in Israel with on O-U hashgocho have the same dating code as the Guide 
lists for each cereal sold in the USA. It is possible that this is not 
true, that the dating code for all such cereals sold in Israel may be one 
year after packing. We hope to have this matter clarified in about 2 weeks 
and will issue a further update on this.

Mendy's Bakery, at three sites, produces Yoshon without hashgocho for 
Yoshon. These are 2213 65th St. Brooklyn (718) 837-0782, 4611 13th Ave, 
Brooklyn (718) 851-6624 and 72-22 Main St. Flushing, NY (718) 544-8736.

Circa-NY Restaurant, 22 West 33rd St, New York, NY (212) 244-3730. This 
restaurant has many items that are Yoshon. There is a posted sign to 
indicate which items are Yoshon and which are not. For further information, 
ask the full-time O-U mashgiach Rabbi Shia Wurtzberger. (Note that the O-U 
officially only gives a hashgocho for kashrus. Therefore, the mashgiach's 
information on Yoshon will be "unofficial".)

Moshe's Supermarket, 325 Ave. M, Brooklyn. The bakery section gets their 
products from Korn Bakery. See page 29 of the Guide under "15th Ave Food 
Corp and Korn" for further details.

The Guide incorrectly listed Bernie's Place in Brooklyn as being Yoshon 
under hashgocho. In fact, this store has closed and is out of business.

Page 34 of the Guide listed two establishments for Queens, NY, the Pizza 
Professor under hashgocho and the Pizza Warehouse without hashgocho. In 
fact the Pizza Warehouse listing should have been deleted. It has been 
replaced by the Pizza Professor. The corrected phone number for the Pizza 
Professor is (718)261-6666.


THE FOLLOWING IS AN EXACT REPRINT OF THE YOSHON UPDATE FOR CANADA FROM THE 
COR IN TORONTO:

Yoshon Update # 2
Date: September 30, 2002
The Yoshon cutoff dates for the following products are as follows:
Robin Hood Multifoods

Old Mill Oats, Robin Hood Oats - Imprinted code must be 2612 or lower.

Robin Hood Organic Oats - Imprinted code must be 2253 or lower

Robin Hood/Monarch Retail Flour (excl. Cake and Pastry, Organic) - If the 
last digit of the imprinted production code is S, the first digits must be 
2632 or lower. If the last digit is M, the first digits must be 2273 or lower.

Robin Hood/Monarch Retail Flour (Cake and Pastry) - Imprinted code must be 
2632 or lower.

Robin Hood/Monarch Retail Flour (Organic) - Imprinted code must be 2882 or 
lower.
Quaker Oats
Products containing oats - Embossed code must be 0814P2 or lower.
Puffed Wheat and Malt Flavoured Shredded Wheat - products are still yoshon.
Muffets Shredded Wheat and Quaker Puffed Rice are always yoshon.
General Mills (mf'g in USA, for export to Canada only, OU certified)
Regular and Apple Cinnamon Cheerios are yoshon, will change in Nov.
We currently don't have accurate information on other Cheerios products.
Weetabix
Weetabix, Corn Flakes, Bran Flakes and Raisin Bran, are still yoshon.
Alpen and Grain Shop - products are still yoshon.



Presidents Choice (COR 123)
Toasted O's, Honey Nut O's, Fruity O's, Frosted Oats and Fibre First 
Multibran - products are still yoshon.
Post Cereals  (COR 38) and (COR 114)
Products are still yoshon.
Kelloggs Canada - products are still yoshon.
Barley - Product currently in stores is possibly Chodosh.
Kolbo has yoshon barley.
Equality (Dominion) and Our Compliments (Sobeys) - All purpose flour is 
still yoshon.
Five Roses Flour - (up to and incl. 10 kg sizes)
Products are still yoshon.
Pasta
Unico - Products carrying the OU - First digits of the embossed code must 
be 091204 or lower.
Products carrying the MK are still Yoshon.
Italpasta - is still yoshon.
Primo - is still yoshon.
Pita (COR 64 only) is still Yoshon.

No Name Instant Oatmeal (flavoured packets) COR 311 - embossed code of 257D 
or lower.
Flour - (COR 142) - Code must be 2269 or lower.
Please Note :
The current update includes all products listed in previous updates.
The above noted information is subject to change.
The above information applies to products manufactured in Canada only.

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