Update from the Guide to Chodosh
Y. Herman
yherman at earthlink.net
Tue Oct 29 22:33:57 EST 2002
(Introductory note: I tried to send out the cereal tables in the enclosed
news update. I see that the E mail system scrambles the format of these
tables. Sorry. I hope you still find them usable.)
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CHODOSH BULLETIN
FOLLOWING AS OF OCT 29 02
The Guide contained listings for General Mills and Quaker cereals. There
have been changes and there were errors in the tables printed in
association with these listings in the Guide. In addition, those who
downloaded the E mail versions of the Guide did not get the tables.
Therefore, we present here the updated listings for these two cereal
companies, complete with the tables.
General Mills cereals come in a great variety. We are relying on you to
check the ingredients to see if they contain oats, wheat GERM, barley, or
barley malt. (Note that for General Mills cereals the wheat products other
than wheat germ, such as wheat, whole wheat flour, wheat starch, wheat
bran, etc are all Yoshon. The only wheat problem is added wheat germ.) Then
choose the earliest of the following dates and the appropriate Chodosh
package code from the table below. The Chodosh packing dates used are wheat
germ-Aug 20, barley (not malted)-Sept 14, oats-Oct 21 (REVISED DATE), malt,
barley malt, malted barley flour-Jan 15. (Note: General Mills/Nestle
cereals sold in Israel are still an open question. I am waiting for further
information from the O-U on the dating codes used in Israel.)
Here is the table by cereal name. Choose the earliest date based on the
ingredients. The columns are Days=number of days from packing to the date
on the package, Code-wh Grm=the package Chodosh date for wheat germ,
Code-barley=package date for barley, Code-oats=package date for oats,
Code-malt=package date for malt or barley malt.
**************General Mills Cereal Table of package Chodosh dates ********
Cereal Name Days Code-wh.
Grm Code-barley Code-oats Code-malt
Cheerios, Apple Cinnamon Cheerios, Frosted Cheerios, Clusters, Kix, Trix,
Team and Toast Crunch 248 Apr 25' 03 May 20 '03 Jul 04
'03 Sep 20 '03
Lucky Charm, Raisin Nut Bran,
Total 279 May 26 '03 Jun 20 '03 Jul 27
'03 Oct 21 '03
Honey Nut and MultiGrain Cheerios, Oat Meal Raisin Crisp, Crispy Wheat and
Raisins,
Cinnamon Toast Crunch, Triple, Oatmeal Crisp with Apple Almond and
Raisins, Honey Nut
Chex, Cocoa Puffs 310 Jun 26 '03 Jul 21 '03 Aug 27
'03 Nov 21 '03
Golden Grahams, Millenios, Wheat Chex, Honey Nut Chex, Multi-Grain Chex,
Rice Chex,
Corn Chex, Fiber1 372 Aug 27 '03 Sept 21 '03 Oct 28
'03 Jan 22 '04
******************End General Mills Table *******************
QUAKER and MOTHERS cereals
Quaker (same for Mothers) cereals come in a great variety. Because of the
large amount of data, you need to take a multi-step process to find the
Chodosh code. (NOTES: All of this information also is valid for Quaker
cereals sold in Israel. It does not apply to Quaker cereals made in Canada.
Also note that we just copied the list of cereals provided by the company
without checking for the kashrus of each item. Some of these may not be
kosher. Always check for a kashrus hashgocho! Also hot and cold oat bran
have different dates. Single serving packages of hot cereals have the same
codes as the large packages.)
1) Check the ingredients to see if they contain oats, wheat, barley,
or barley malt.
2) Find the name of your cereal in the "Shelf-life" list below.
3) Then choose the earliest of the following dates and the appropriate
Chodosh package code from the table at the side. The Chodosh packing dates
used are oats-Aug 12, spring wheat-Aug 20, barley (not malted)-Sept 14,
malt, barley malt, malted barley flour-Jan 15.
QUAKER AND MOTHERS SHELF LIFE LIST:
180 days after packing: Granola bars, Grain/Rice cakes, Crispy Mints, Fruit
and Oatmeal Bars
270 days after packing: COLD CEREALS (add milk, do not cook): Cap'n Crunch,
Choco Donut Crunch, Crispy Corn Puffs, Crunchy Corn Bran, Frosted Shredded
Wheat, Fruity Ocean Adventure, King Vitaman, Mothers products, Apple Zaps,
Cocoa Blasts, Frosted Flakers, Fruitangy Ohs, Honey Crisp Corn Flakes,
Honey Dipps, Honey Grahams, Honey Nut Oats, Marshmallow Safari, Natural
Cereal with Oats & Honey, Oat Bran, Oat Squares, Oh's, Sweet Crunch, Sweet
Puffs, Toasted Oatmeal, Quisp, Puffed Rice, Puffed Wheat, Oatmeal Express.
300 days after packing: Shredded Wheat.
360 days after packing: Life
540 days after packing: HOT CEREALS (for cooking): Mothers and Quaker Bran,
Multigrain 100% Natural Hot Cereal, Instant and Rolled Oats both regular
and Quick, Farina, Whole Wheat Natural Hot Cereal.
***********Quaker/Mothers cereals table of package Chodosh dates ********
Days Code-oats Code-sp.wh Code-barley Code-malt
180 Feb 8, '03 Feb 16 '03 Mar. 13
'03 Jul 14 '03
270 May 9 '03 May 17 '03 Jun 11 '03 Oct 12 '03
300 Jun 8 '03 Jun 16 '03 Jul 11
'03 Nov 11 '03
360 Aug 7 '03 Aug 15 '03 Sept 14
'03 Jan 10 '04
540 Feb 3 '04 Feb 11 '04 Mar 7
'04 Jul 8 '04
***********END Quaker/Mothers table ********************************
ConAgra, Grand Union and Pathmark oats cereals, the revised packing date is
Oct 14.
Goya Barley Chodosh revised packing date is Oct 16, code 028902 (0=not
important, 289=day of the year, 02=year)
Gefen whole wheat matzos are Yoshon, without hashgocho for Yoshon.
Le Chaim candy bars and all other products under the hashgocho of the
Mechon L'Horoah of Monsey are Yoshon under hashgocho.
American Bagels, 720, W 181 St, New York City, (212) 923-0123. All items
made on premises are Yoshon, without hashgocho for Yoshon.
Empire and Upscale frozen pizza (but NOT pizza bagels) are Yoshon under the
hashgocho of the O-U.
Pizza Planet, 3005 Ave. K Brooklyn. Only the pizza is Yoshon under the
hashgocho of Kehila Kashrus. Other items in the store may be Chodosh.
Kemach updates: Farina has a Chodosh package date of 7/31/04. One pound
boxes of spaghetti, macaroni and lasagna have a Chodosh package date of
10/16/03. Large 10 pound boxes of bow ties, egg barley, and noodles with a
"Z" at the end of package code have a Chodosh date of Oct 16, code 2892
(289=day of the year, 2=year). Large 10 pound packages of pastas with a "P"
at the start of the code have a Chodosh date of Oct 28, code P2301 (2=year,
301=day of the year). Chow Mein noodles have a Chodosh date of Sept 16,
code 162I (16=day of month, 2=year, I=month in alph. order.)
Korn Retail Bakeries in Brooklyn. The following are owned by Korn (15th Ave
Food Corp) Wholesale bakeries and are Yoshon under hashgocho for Yoshon of
the O-K Laboratories: Korn Bakery, 1278 49th St and the bakery sections of
Moshe's Supermarket, 325 Ave. M., KRM Supermarket and Kosher Palace
Supermarket. Whatever is printed in the Guide (page 29) for Korn Wholesale
Bakery also applies to these. The following Korn Retail Bakeries are fully
Yoshon, but NOT under hashgocho for Yoshon: 5004 16th Ave, (718) 851-0258,
4106 18th Ave, 851-8015, 5918 18th Ave 621-0595, 914 Kings Highway
627-2903, 4309 13th Ave 435-2852, plus the bakery section in KDS
Supermarket 1507 Coney Island Ave 692-0879.
Natural Ovens Bakery. The Guide incorrectly lists this as "Natural Ovens of
Manitoba" In fact this bakery is in Wisconsin and used to be called
"Natural Ovens of Manitowok". The name is now being changed to Natural
Ovens Bakery since they are opening a second bakery in Indiana. The
information on page 12 of the Guide should still be valid.
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THE FOLLOWING AS OF OCT 17 02
J&J Frozen blintzes are all Yoshon, under the hashgocho of Rabbi Yehuda
Shain of Double-U-Kosher.
Empire frozen cheese (NOT other types) blintzes are Yoshon, under the
hashgocho of Rabbi Yehuda Shain of Double-U-Kosher.
Amnon Kosher Pizza is Yoshon, without hashgocho for Yoshon. This refers
both to the wholesale sold in groceries and the retail store at 4814 13th
Ave. Brooklyn. 718-851-1758.
Barbara Cereals have a date on the package that is 8-9 months after packing.
Gold Medal home Better for Bread flour and the Better for Wheat Bread flour
both have dates that are 18 months after packing. The Gold Medal Whole
Wheat flour is dated 6 months after packing.
G&I Bakery, both the retail and wholesale are Yoshon without hashgocho for
Yoshon. The retail store is at 69-40 Main St. Kew Garden Hills, NY (718)
261-1155. The wholesale breads are available I groceries and are baked at
130-10 180th St, Springfield Gardens, NY 11434. (718) 481-7000.
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THE FOLLOWING AS OF OCT 10 02
Heckers and Ceresota flour codes have changed. It is now a straight "best
if used by" date. The date on the package is 12 months after packing for
the whole wheat flour and 18 months for the regular unbleached white flour.
Borekas Plus, 1528 Coney Island Ave, Brooklyn is no longer under the
hashgocho of Kehilah Kashrus. It is now in the category of Yoshon without
hashgocho for Yoshon.
Kosher Pizza Palace, 2816 Ave M, Brooklyn. The pita is also Yoshon.
Gelbstein Bakery, Clifton Ave, Lakewood, 732-363-3636, produces Yoshon
without hashgocho for Yoshon.
Geffen Pancake and Waffle Mix Yoshon (without hashgocho) the whole season.
Landau Whole Wheat pasta is Yoshon (without hashgocho) the whole season.
Detroit Michigan. Rabbi Gruskin was listed in the Guide as the local
contact. He no longer lives in the Detroit area. A new contact will be
announced soon.
Kedem Soup mixes are NOT recommended as Yoshon at this time.
Smackin Good Frozen Waffles Chodosh as of purchase date of Oct 15, no code
availalble. Smackin Good Frozen Potato Knishes are Yoshon at least up to
the purchase date of Nev 15.
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THE FOLLOWING AS OF 1 Oct 02
The Guide to Chodosh was published and mailed out right after Yom Kippur.
The following are changes, additions and corrections to the Guide.
New pasta dates and codes: For the following brands Ronzoni, Creamette,
Giorgio, American Beauty, Skinner and Prince, the new Chodosh packing date
is Oct 28, 02. The revised code is 2301 (2=year, 301=day of the year).
General Mills cereals. The table on page 19 of the Guide has an error. The
Chodosh cutoff package code for 248 days for wheat germ should be Apr 25
'03. The package code for 372 days and malt should be Jan 22 '04. Further
clarification: the wheat, wheat bran and wheat starch in General Mills
cereals is from winter wheat. However if wheat germ is listed in the
ingredients (instead of just "wheat") then it may be from spring wheat.
That is the reason that the table on page 19 only lists wheat germ as a
wheat problem for General Mills cereals.
Quaker cereals. The table on page 20 of the Guide has an error. For 360
days and malt, the package date should be Jan 10, '04.
Smackin Good pancakes under the hashgocho of Rav Weissmandl may be Chodosh
after the purchase date of Oct 2 '02.
Cereals in Israel. The Guide stated that all General Mills/Nestle cereals
sold in Israel with on O-U hashgocho have the same dating code as the Guide
lists for each cereal sold in the USA. It is possible that this is not
true, that the dating code for all such cereals sold in Israel may be one
year after packing. We hope to have this matter clarified in about 2 weeks
and will issue a further update on this.
Mendy's Bakery, at three sites, produces Yoshon without hashgocho for
Yoshon. These are 2213 65th St. Brooklyn (718) 837-0782, 4611 13th Ave,
Brooklyn (718) 851-6624 and 72-22 Main St. Flushing, NY (718) 544-8736.
Circa-NY Restaurant, 22 West 33rd St, New York, NY (212) 244-3730. This
restaurant has many items that are Yoshon. There is a posted sign to
indicate which items are Yoshon and which are not. For further information,
ask the full-time O-U mashgiach Rabbi Shia Wurtzberger. (Note that the O-U
officially only gives a hashgocho for kashrus. Therefore, the mashgiach's
information on Yoshon will be "unofficial".)
Moshe's Supermarket, 325 Ave. M, Brooklyn. The bakery section gets their
products from Korn Bakery. See page 29 of the Guide under "15th Ave Food
Corp and Korn" for further details.
The Guide incorrectly listed Bernie's Place in Brooklyn as being Yoshon
under hashgocho. In fact, this store has closed and is out of business.
Page 34 of the Guide listed two establishments for Queens, NY, the Pizza
Professor under hashgocho and the Pizza Warehouse without hashgocho. In
fact the Pizza Warehouse listing should have been deleted. It has been
replaced by the Pizza Professor. The corrected phone number for the Pizza
Professor is (718)261-6666.
THE FOLLOWING IS AN EXACT REPRINT OF THE YOSHON UPDATE FOR CANADA FROM THE
COR IN TORONTO:
Yoshon Update # 2
Date: September 30, 2002
The Yoshon cutoff dates for the following products are as follows:
Robin Hood Multifoods
Old Mill Oats, Robin Hood Oats - Imprinted code must be 2612 or lower.
Robin Hood Organic Oats - Imprinted code must be 2253 or lower
Robin Hood/Monarch Retail Flour (excl. Cake and Pastry, Organic) - If the
last digit of the imprinted production code is S, the first digits must be
2632 or lower. If the last digit is M, the first digits must be 2273 or lower.
Robin Hood/Monarch Retail Flour (Cake and Pastry) - Imprinted code must be
2632 or lower.
Robin Hood/Monarch Retail Flour (Organic) - Imprinted code must be 2882 or
lower.
Quaker Oats
Products containing oats - Embossed code must be 0814P2 or lower.
Puffed Wheat and Malt Flavoured Shredded Wheat - products are still yoshon.
Muffets Shredded Wheat and Quaker Puffed Rice are always yoshon.
General Mills (mf'g in USA, for export to Canada only, OU certified)
Regular and Apple Cinnamon Cheerios are yoshon, will change in Nov.
We currently don't have accurate information on other Cheerios products.
Weetabix
Weetabix, Corn Flakes, Bran Flakes and Raisin Bran, are still yoshon.
Alpen and Grain Shop - products are still yoshon.
Presidents Choice (COR 123)
Toasted O's, Honey Nut O's, Fruity O's, Frosted Oats and Fibre First
Multibran - products are still yoshon.
Post Cereals (COR 38) and (COR 114)
Products are still yoshon.
Kelloggs Canada - products are still yoshon.
Barley - Product currently in stores is possibly Chodosh.
Kolbo has yoshon barley.
Equality (Dominion) and Our Compliments (Sobeys) - All purpose flour is
still yoshon.
Five Roses Flour - (up to and incl. 10 kg sizes)
Products are still yoshon.
Pasta
Unico - Products carrying the OU - First digits of the embossed code must
be 091204 or lower.
Products carrying the MK are still Yoshon.
Italpasta - is still yoshon.
Primo - is still yoshon.
Pita (COR 64 only) is still Yoshon.
No Name Instant Oatmeal (flavoured packets) COR 311 - embossed code of 257D
or lower.
Flour - (COR 142) - Code must be 2269 or lower.
Please Note :
The current update includes all products listed in previous updates.
The above noted information is subject to change.
The above information applies to products manufactured in Canada only.
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