Update from the Guide to Chodosh

[Y. Herman]

CHODOSH NEWS AS OF 21 OCT 01

I plan to travel overseas between the dates of Oct 21 and Oct 30. It will 
be difficult to answer E mails in a timely fashion during this period. 
Please hold off all non-essential questions until after Oct 30.

This is to confirm that Ungers, Geffen and Martisco barley is not 
recommended as Yoshon if purchased after Oct 15.

Tabachnick soups (page 25 of the Guide) the code has changed. The probable 
Chodosh date is Aug 26, code 08265 (4 years after packing).

Tradition Foods instant soups there is an error in the code example given 
in the Guide. The probable Chodosh date of Aug 26 has the code of Aug 2004 
(2 years after packing, no day of month given).

More bakeries and other facilities have now provided us with information 
about their Yoshon arrangements.
Mendelson’s Pizza, 4418 18th St. Brooklyn. All items Yoshon under the 
hashgocho for Yoshon of the O-U.
Eli’s Bagels, 58 N. Myrtle Ave, Monsey. All baked goods are Yoshon under 
hashgocho for Yoshon of Rav Gruber.
Kol Tuv Restaurant, 118 Route 59, Monsey. All baked goods are Yoshon under 
hashgocho for Yoshon of Rav Gruber.
Jerusalem Pizza, Monsey Glatt Shopping Center, 190 Rt 59. All items are 
Yoshon, including rolls and sandwich breads. So far as we know, the kashrus 
supervision of this store does not extend to Yoshon.
Shelly’s Café and Pizza, 126 Maple Ave. Spring Valley. All items are 
Yoshon. Note: This store claims that Rav Bresslauer gives hashgocho for 
Yoshon. Rav Bresslauer said that while it is true that the store is Yoshon, 
but that his hashgocho does not officially extend to the Yoshon arrangements.


CHODOSH NEWS AS OF 14 OCT 01

We have updated that list of bakeries and other establishments that do not 
have hashgocho for Yoshon specifically, but have informed us that they are 
Yoshon again. In the Guide these were not recommended due to lack of 
information and have now contacted us. This week we have added to the list 
below  Michyo Pita regular and whole wheat, as well as Weiss Bakery in 
Brooklyn and Mendeson’s Pizza in Brooklyn. We have also updated the Canada 
information listed below based on Yoshon Update #2 from the COR in Toronto.


CHODOSH NEWS AS OF 5 OCT 01

Noodles and pasta for which dating codes are not known are probably Yoshon 
if purchased up to Nov 15.

Noodles and pasta under the following brand names have a Chodosh packing 
date of Nov. 12. The code for each is 1316 (1=year, 316=day of the year.) 
The brands are Prince, Creamette, Goia, Ronzoni, San Giorgio, P&R, Light N’ 
Fluffy, Ideal, American Beauty, Skinner.

Noodles and pasta under the following brand names have a Chodosh packing 
date of Nov. 1. The code for each is 110103xx (11=November, 01=date, 
03=year+2, xx=numbers that are not important.) The brands are Ronco, 
Pennsylvania Dutch, R&F, Luxury, Globe A1, Anthony, Mrs. Gross.

Pathmark noodles and pasta has a Chodosh packing date of Nov 1, code Nov 1, 
2003 (2 years after packing.)

Pillsbury white home baking flour and bread flour in 5 pound bags for home 
baking from factory A contain 50% spring wheat. The Chodosh packing date is 
Sept 18, code I1A18 (I=Sept in alph. Order, 1=year, A=factory, 18=date.)

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The Guide listed several bakeries and other establishments as being Not 
Recommended due to lack of information. This was due to the fact that 
information about their Yoshon arrangements was not received at the time of 
the printing of the Guide. The following establishments have now provided 
information about their Yoshon arrangements. They will be listed in the 
next issues of the Guide in the section of establishments where the kashrus 
supervision does not take responsibility for Yoshon.

Kaff Bakery 4518 Ft. Hamilton Parkway, Brooklyn (718) 851. All items made 
in the bakery are Yoshon as in the past years. The kashrus supervision of 
this store does not take responsibility for Yoshon.

King David Bakery, 77-51 Vleigh Place, Flushing, Queens, NY (718)969-6165. 
All items in the store are Yoshon. So far as we know, the kashrus 
supervision of this store does not extend to Yoshon.

Mendelson’s Pizza, 4418 18th Ave, Brooklyn, Items made in the store are 
Yoshon. So far as we know, the kashrus supervision of this store does not 
extend to Yoshon.

Ostrowizky’s Heimishe Bakery, 1201 Ave J, Brooklyn, was listed in the Guide 
as Not. As in the past years, all items baked on premises are Yoshon. The 
kashrus supervision of this store does not take responsibility for Yoshon.

Queens Kosher Pita, 68-38 Main St. Flushing, Queens, NY (718) 263-8000. All 
items made in the store are Yoshon, including pita, chaleh, cakes and other 
items. The kashrus supervision of this store does not take responsibility 
for Yoshon.

Weiss Bakery, 5011 13th Ave. Brooklyn, (718) 438-0407 All items baked 
locally are Yoshon. This store has a branch in Philadelphia. The chalehs 
sold in Philadelphia are Yoshon. Donuts, bagels and breads in Philadelphia 
may be Chodosh.
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Bread Basket Bakery is listed on page 38 of the Guide as been Not 
Recommended for lack of information. In fact this is an error. The correct 
listing is on page 30 of the Guide as BBB Bakery, Yoshon under the 
hashgocho of Rabbi Gornish.



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The following is reprinted from Yoshon Update #2 of the Kashrus Council of 
Canada (COR of Toronto):
Robin Hood Multifoods: Old Mills Oats, Robin Hood, first 3 digits must be 
252 or lower for Yoshon.
Robin Hood Organic Oats-Imprinted code must be 1252 or lower.
Robin Hood/Monarch retail flour (excluding cake, pastry and organic). If 
the last character of the code is S then the first 3 digits of the code 
must be 232 or lower. If the last character is M, it is still Yoshon. Robin 
Hood/Monarch retail cake and pastry flour, the first 3 digits of the code 
must be 246 or lower. Robin Hood/Monarch retail organic flour, the code 
must be 1232 or lower.

Quaker Oats oats manufactured in Canada are Yoshon if the embossed code is 
0923 or lower. Fuffed Wheat and Malt Flavoured Shredded Wheat are still 
Yoshon (as of Oct 11). Muffets Shredded Wheat and Quaker Puffed Rice are 
always Yoshon.

No Name instant oatmeal (flavoured packets) COR311, code of I246 or lower.

Flour (COR142) code must be I281 or lower.

Five Roses flour up to and including 10 kg. Sizes. They are Yoshon if the 
code begins with H and the next 3 digits are 285 or lower. If the code 
begins with K then the next 3 digits must be 278 or lower..

Presidents Choice (COR 123) products: Toasted O’s, Honey Nut Oats, Fruity 
O’s, Frosted Oats and Fibre First Multibran. Yoshon if the first 4 
characters of the code are OC01 (meaning October 1) or earlier.

General Mills cereals made in US for export to Canada: Honey Nut Chereos. 
First 4 characters must be C126 or lower. Other Cheerios, code must be E101 
or lower.

Weetabix: Corn Flakes, Bran Flakes, Raisin Bran are still Yoshon (as of Oct 
11). Alpen and Grain Shop are Yoshon if the first four characters of the 
code are SE26 or earlier.

Barley in Canada may be Chodosh at this time.

Equality (A&P-Dominion) and Our Complements (Sobeys) all purpose white 
flour is still Yoshon.

PASTA
Unico pasta with O-U, the code must begin with 0831 or lower to be Yoshon. 
Products with MK are still Yoshon.
Italpasta is still Yoshon.
Primo is still Yoshon.
Pita (COR 64 only) is still Yoshon.



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UPDATED INFORMATION RECEIVED:


Michyo Pita was listed in the Guide as Not Recommended for lack of 
information. The information has now been received that all regular and 
whole wheat pita is Yoshon as in the past years. No hashgocho for Yoshon.

Flour USA packs high gluten flour in 5 and 6 pound brown bags that are sold 
in grocery stores in the New York City area. All bags that state Yoshon on 
the bag are Yoshon without hashgocho for Yoshon.

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CHODOSH NEWS AS OF 16 SEPT 01

A repeat of the news printed below: Freshly baked bakery products may be 
Chodosh at this time, everywhere in the USA. From this time on, it is 
advised that only Yoshon bakeries should be used.

The Guide the Chodosh went to the printer today. It is expected back, on 
Tzom Gedalya, Thursday, evening. It will be available for purchase that 
evening outside my home, 20 Sylvan Road, Monsey. It should be mailed to the 
other dealers and the individual paid subscribers within a few days. 
Meanwhile some of you with E mail service are able to request (free of 
charge) an unformatted, text file version of the full Guide by sending a 
message to:

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return E mail. However, some E mail systems, such as Juno may not allow you 
to receive such large files. In a few days, I will try to subdivide the 
file to four smaller ones so that these restricted systems should also be 
able to received this version of the Guide in installments.

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CHODOSH NEWS AS OF 9 Sept 01

The following is a summary of the information as known at this time. Please 
remember that all dates given here are early estimates and are subject to 
change.

The Guide to Chodosh is now estimated to be available in printed or E mail 
form, approximately right after Rosh Hashanah. We can not print it earlier 
due to the fact that the dates that are known so far are not firm enough. 
However, be warned that some foods may be Chodosh already, as noted below.

Fresh baked bread and other bakery products in the Mid West, including 
Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland and Minneapolis, are probably Chodosh starting 
Aug 27. For the East and West coasts, the probable Chodosh date for freshly 
baked products is Sept 13. For packaged products using spring wheat, the 
probable Chodosh packing date is Aug 26. The probable Chodosh purchase date 
is Sept 17. The same estimate also holds for noodles and other pasta. THIS 
MEANS THAT BY THE END OF THIS WEEK FRESHLY-BAKED BAKERY PRODUCTS SUCH AS 
BREADS AND CHALEHS SHOULD NOT BE USED ANYWHERE IN THE USA UNLESS YOU CHECK 
TO MAKE SURE IT IS YOSHON.

For oats cereals by brand name the Chodosh packing dates are: Arrowhead 
Sept 5,  ConAgra Oct 1, Ralston Oct 15, General Mills Oct 1, Maypo Sept 25, 
Quaker and HO  Aug 21. For other brands, the oats are probably Chodosh if 
packed after Sept. 21. For each of the above, the probable Chodosh purchase 
dates are about 2 weeks later than the packing dates.

For barley by brand name the Chodosh packing dates are: Quaker  Oct 15, 
Goya Oct 1, Trinidad, Benco, Peak, Jack Rabbit are all Aug 20. Arrowhead 
Aug 1. The probable packing date for other barley is Sept 15. For each of 
the above, the probable Chodosh purchase dates are about 2 weeks later than 
the packing dates.

Some of the home baking flours that are Yoshon at all times: Kemach and 
Haddar under hashgocho for Yoshon, Ceresota, Heckers and Pathmark white flours.

Natural Ovens Bakery breads are NOT Yoshon at this time.



Yoseph Herman

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