Update from the Guide to Chodosh
Y. Herman
yherman at earthlink.net
Thu Nov 22 17:08:16 EST 2001
CHODOSH NEWS AS OF 22 NOV 01
The second edition of the Guide to Chodosh for the current season has now
been completed. It is scheduled to be returned from the printer
approximately on Monday or Tuesday, Nov. 26 or 27. As soon as it is
delivered, it will be available for purchase that evening outside my home,
20 Sylvan Road, Monsey. It should be mailed to the other dealers and the
individual paid subscribers within a few days. Meanwhile some of you with E
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Meanwhile, attached below is the summary of changes and news taken from the
beginning of the new Guide. This contains some new information, plus all of
the information which I had been sending out piecemeal in earlier E mail
updates.
Yoseph Herman
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A SUMMARY OF CHANGES FROM THE PREVIOUS EDITION OF THE GUIDE
This is a summary of the changes that have become known since the printing
of the last issue of the Guide. These changes are gathered here and listed
in alphabetical order, to permit a quick review by the reader. The reader
who is very familiar with the previous edition of the Guide may choose to
merely review this list of corrections. However, for the convenience of
everyone, each of these corrections has been inserted in the appropriate
locations in the Guide below as well. In addition, in the body of the
Guide, below, the attention of the reader is called to each item that has
been corrected or added in this edition by bold print and a bullet marking
next to the changed section. In a few cases where the changes are very
lengthy, only a brief mention is made in this summary.
IMPORTANT WARNINGS
Spicy Fries. The Kehilah Kashrus of Brooklyn points out that most pizza
stores (at least in Brooklyn, maybe elsewhere) sell Spicy Fries. These
items may be Chodosh and should be avoided until further clarification,
even in stores that are otherwise fully Yoshon.
Barley Warning: Some people may be claiming that the following barleys are
Yoshon: Unger, Benzys and Martisco. In fact these companies have made some
efforts to produce barley that is Yoshon. However, so far they have failed
to explain adequately the reliability of their processes. Therefore, these
are still not recommended as Yoshon until further notice unless the store
already had them in stock by Sept 1.
REVISED PROBABLE CHODOSH DATE FOR PASTA
Noodles and other pasta for which no specific Chodosh date is given can be
assumed to be probably Chodosh starting with a packing date of Oct 27, or
to be probably Chodosh if purchased after Nov. 17.
FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS UNDER HASHGOCHO FOR YOSHON
Bread Basket Bakery, 703 Kings Highway, Brooklyn. All items Yoshon under
the hashgocho of Rabbi Gornish.
Classic Caterers, 2818 Ave. K, Brooklyn, NY 11210. (718) 692-3100. . Yoshon
available only by arrangements through the offices of Kehilah Kashrus.
Elis Bagels, 58 N. Myrtle Ave, Monsey. All baked goods are Yoshon under
hashgocho for Yoshon of Rav Gruber. Note that this only applies to baked
goods. Other items such as the barley, for example in cholent, may be Chodosh.
EmJay Caterers, 2902 Kings Highway, Brooklyn, NY 11229, (718) 338-5000.
Yoshon available only by arrangements through the offices of Kehilah Kashrus.
Essex on Coney, Brooklyn. Corrected listing:, American side is Yoshon,
including the noodles and pasta, but excluding the egg rolls, hamburger and
frankfurter buns and some fancy cakes. Under the Yoshon hashgocho of
Kehilah Kashrus. On the Chinese side, nothing (even flour) is Yoshon.
Gourmet on the Bay, Brooklyn, Corrected listing. Nothing is guaranteed to
be Yoshon, unless requested from the offices of Kehilah Kashrus.
Kol Tuv Restaurant, 118 Route 59, Monsey. All baked goods are Yoshon under
the hashgocho of Rav Gruber.
Mendelsons Pizza, 4418 18th Ave., Brooklyn. All items, including the
frozen pizza, are Yoshon under the hashgocho of the O-U.
Strauss Bakery, 5209 13th Ave., Brooklyn, (718-851-7728). All items are
Yoshon, including the apple strudel. Under the Yoshon hashgocho of the O-U.
FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS YOSHON WITHOUT HASHGOCHO FOR YOSHON
NOTE: The following establishments, we believe, have reliable supervision
for kashrus. However, the kashrus supervision does not take responsibility
for Yoshon. Therefore, these, from the Yoshon point of view, may be less
preferred than those establishments where a qualified mashgiach checks the
ongoing arrangements for Yoshon, such as the establishments listed above,
or listed in italic print in the Guide.
Circa-NY Restaurant, West 33rd St, New York, NY. Only a few items are
Yoshon. Caution is urged since some of the staff seems to be confused about
what is Yoshon and what is not.
Gertels Bakery, 53 Hester St. New York City. All baked items are Yoshon.
The kashrus hashgocho does not certify Yoshon.
Jerusalem Pizza, Monsey Glatt Shopping Center, 190 Rt 59. All items are
Yoshon, including rolls and sandwich breads. The kashrus hashgocho does not
certify Yoshon.
Kaff Bakery 4518 Ft. Hamilton Parkway, Brooklyn (718) 633-2600. All items
made in the bakery are Yoshon as in the past years. The kashrus hashgocho
does not certify Yoshon.
King David Bakery, 77-51 Vleigh Place, Flushing, Queens, NY (718)969-6165.
All items in the store are Yoshon. The kashrus hashgocho does not certify
Yoshon.
Kossars Bialis, 367 Grand St., New York, NY 10002, (212) 473-4810. Baked
products are Yoshon. The kashrus hashgocho does not certify Yoshon.
Michyo Pita was listed in the Guide as Not Recommended for lack of
information. The information has now been received that all regular and
whole wheat pita is Yoshon as in the past years. The kashrus hashgocho does
not certify Yoshon.
Ostrowizkys Heimishe Bakery, 1201 Ave J, Brooklyn. As in the past years,
all items baked on premises are Yoshon. The kashrus hashgocho does not
certify Yoshon.
Pizza Pious, 1063 Broadway, Woodmere, LI, NY, 516-295-2050. Also at 18 East
Park Ave., Long Beach, 516-431-1777. Pizza, rolls, garlic nuts, zeppelins
and calzone are Yoshon. Other items may be Chodosh. There is no hashgocho
for Yoshon.
Queens Kosher Pita, 68-38 Main St. Flushing, Queens, NY (718) 263-8000. All
items made in the store are Yoshon, including pita, chaleh, cakes and other
items. The kashrus hashgocho does not certify Yoshon.
Rose Kosher Bakery, 69-62 Main Street, Flushing, NY, (718-793-3282 or
261-2654) All items baked in the store are Yoshon. The kashrus hashgocho
does not certify Yoshon.
Say Bagel N'Cheese, 1304 Ave M, Brooklyn. (718)-998-8778. All items baked
in the store are Yoshon. Many items that are brought in from the outside
may not be Yoshon. There is no hashgocho specifically for Yoshon.
Shellys Café and Pizza, 126 Maple Ave. Spring Valley. All items are
Yoshon. Note: Rav Bresslauer said that while it is true that the store is
Yoshon, but that his hashgocho does not officially extend to the Yoshon
arrangements.
Weiss Bakery, 5011 13th Ave. Brooklyn, (718) 438-0407 All items baked
locally are Yoshon. This store has a branch in Philadelphia. The chalehs
sold in Philadelphia are Yoshon. Donuts, bagels and breads in Philadelphia
may be Chodosh. The kashrus hashgocho does not certify Yoshon.
ESTABLISHMENT NOT RECOMMENDED FOR YOSHON
Lebon Restaurant & Pizzeria, 980 6th Ave, New York, NY has been claiming
that they are Yoshon. This restaurant is NOT RECOMMENDED as Yoshon at this
time.
OTHER CORRECTIONS AND ADDITIONS TO THE GUIDE
Arrowhead Mills Puffed Kamut. There is a mistake in Section 3.10 of the
Guide, where it states that this is from Yoshon spring wheat. The word
Yoshon should have been omitted, since this wheat is Chodosh starting
Sept 25, as stated there.
Barbara Cereals can not be recommended because the company refuses to
reveal the dating code system used.
Columbia pasta from Zerega & Co., Chodosh date Oct 15. On small grocery
size packeages, the code is Oct 30 02 (1 year after packing). On large bulk
packages, the code is 2881 (288=day of the year, 1=year.)
Dagim frozen products are Yoshon, but without hashgocho for Yoshon.
Eden pasta code has changed. The probable Chodosh date is Oct 27, code
03001 (0=not important, 300=day of year, 1=year.
Flour USA packs high gluten flour in 5 and 6 pound brown bags that are sold
in grocery stores in the New York City area. All bags that state Yoshon on
the bag are Yoshon without hashgocho for Yoshon.
Geffen barley is Yoshon up to and including the packing date of Oct. 15,
code: 15OC02 (15=date, OC=October, 02=2002, one year after packing.) There
is no specific hashgocho for Yoshon at this time. The company is trying to
find a suitable way of packing Yoshon barley reliably after this date. We
will issue further bulletins on this as more information becomes available.
General Mills oats Chodosh packing date is Nov. 1
Gold Medal flours from factory V. The all purpose white flour is 100%
winter wheat. The Better For Bread uses 50% spring wheat and the home whole
wheat flour is from 100% spring wheat. Chodosh date for spring wheat is
Sept 15, code March 15, 2003 (18 months after packing.) The all purpose
white home baking flour from factory L is from 100% winter wheat. From
factory D Gold Medal all purpose white flour is from winter wheat. Gold
Medal Whole wheat flour is from spring wheat. The Chodosh packing date is
Oct 15, code Apr 15 2003.
Goya barley, the revised Chodosh date is Nov. 1, code 030501 (0=not
important, 305=day of the year, 01=year.)
Grandstand Pizza Bagel is Yoshon without special hashgocho for Yoshon.
Kemach correction:: Chow Mein noodles were supposed to be Yoshon up to the
purchase date of Oct 31. In fact they became Chodosh earlier, starting with
the packing date of Oct 18, code of 181J (18=day, 1=year, J=month in alph.
order.) Kemach egg noodles are Yoshon even without Yoshon labels. Kemach
spaghetti, macaroni and lasagna have a revised Chodosh date of Oct. 1, code
Oct 1 2002 (1 year after packing.)
Manischewitz pasta. The code may have changed to a date. The corrected
probably Chodosh date is Oct 27. Old code would be 3001 (300=day of year,
1=year.) The new code may be Oct. 27, 2002 (1 year after packing.) This
code may be inaccurate. We are trying to clarify this.
Mehadrin Pizza, Yoshon with Yoshon label, without special hashgocho for Yoshon.
Nature Valley Granola Bars probable Chodosh date is Sept 21, code Sept 21,
2002 (1 year after packing.
Noodles and pasta under the following brand names have a Chodosh packing
date of Nov. 1. The code for each is 110103xx (11=November, 01=date,
03=year+2, xx=numbers that are not important.) The brands are Mueller,
Pennsylvania Dutch, Ronco, R&F, Luxury, Globe A1, Anthony, Mrs. Gross.
Noodles and pasta under the following brand names have a Chodosh packing
date of Nov. 12. The code for each is 1316 (1=year, 316=day of the year.)
The brands are Prince, Creamette, Gioia, Ronzoni, San Giorgio, P&R, Light
N Fluffy, Ideal, American Beauty, Skinner.
Noodles and pasta under the following names are listed in the Guide with
the probable Chodosh packing date. Since, as mentioned above, the probable
Chodosh date has been delayed to Oct. 27, the corresponding Chodosh code
for each of these has been adjusted. For specific information see Section
3.5 below. The brands are: Berilla, Bordens, Bravo, ContaLuna, C-Town, De
Bols, Del Monico, Eden, Foulds, Goodmans, Hershey, Leonardo, Mrs. Weiss,
Pasta La Bella, Perfection, Richfoods, Shoprite, Sysco, Vimco, Viviano.
Paskesz cookies under the hashgocho of Rav Gruber are Yoshon even without
Yoshon label, except for those cookies that contain oats or graham flour.
Those should not be purchased after Sept 17.
Pathmark noodles and pasta have a Chodosh packing date of Nov 1, code Nov
1, 2003 (2 years after packing.)
Pillsbury white home baking flour and bread flour in 5 pound bags for home
baking from factory A contain 50% spring wheat. The Chodosh packing date is
Sept 18, code I1A18 (I=Sept in alph. Order, 1=year, A=factory, 18=date.)
Quaker Unprocessed bran date code is 9 months after packing. The Fruit
Tangy Oats is 8 months after packing. Captain Crunch cereal date is 10
months days after packing.
Robin Hood all purpose flour from factory D has the Chodosh date of Oct 15,
code Apr 15 03 D (18 months after packing.)
Savion croutons. The probable Chodosh date is Oct 27, code 11300 (1=year, 1
not important, 300=day of the year.
Sea Diamond frozen products are Yoshon, but without hashgocho for Yoshon.
Tabachnick soups the code has changed. The probable Chodosh date is Aug 26,
code 08264 (3 years after packing).
Unger, Benzys and Martisco barley still can not be recommended as Yoshon
due to lack of sufficient supporting information from the companies.
Recommended only if the store had it since Sept 1.
Vegichef frozen products are Yoshon, but without hashgocho for Yoshon.
Weetabix cereals were listed in the Guide under Grainfield and were
supposed to use only winter wheat. These cereals are no longer associated
with Grainfield. However, most are still from winter wheat, where the only
possible problem is malt (see malt discussion below.) The only known
exceptions are the Alpen and Grain Shop cereals may be Chodosh starting the
packing date of Sept. 27, code SE27. (Information supplied by the COR of
Toronto.)
CANADIAN YOSHON SITUATION
The latest available Chodosh Bulletin of the COR of Toronto is reprinted in
Section 4.11 below.
ANNUAL MALT REMINDER
We never found any malt manufacturer that begins to ship Chodosh malt from
the new barley crop earlier than Dec. 15. The malt is then shipped, Dec. 15
or later, to other factories that begin to use it in the end products.
Therefore, using the terminology established in the Guide, all malt in
foods is definitely Yoshon before Dec 15. Up to Jan. 15 such malt is
probably Yoshon
The following applications of malt pose a problem of Chodosh. Malt is used
for several purposes. Foods using malt for flavoring or coloring should not
be used if packed after Dec 15 or at least Jan 15 since that malt may be
Chodosh. That includes cereals flavored with malt such as Corn Flakes and
Rice Crispies, as well as most pretzels where it is used for coloring. Beer
is also included in the category of items which are Chodosh because of
malt. (In the case of beer, we recommend that the Dec 15 date should be
used, not the probable date of Jan 15.) In addition there are specialty
vinegars such as malt vinegar, terragon vinegar and salad vinegar which are
made with high concentrations of malt.
We had urged our readers to avoid some items in the past because they may
contain barley malt. We have since discovered that many of these are not a
problem so far as the malt content is concerned. This includes baking flour
that lists barley malt in the ingredients. Also permitted are most
vinegar-based items such as ordinary household vinegar, and condiments such
as ketchup, mayonnaise, mustard, pickles, etc.
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